Atmosphere brand

Yes, we need an Atmosphere brand / logo!

This came up again recently

As we’ve written here and there, there is some work underfoot to create a global Atmosphere Community Co-Op.

Stewarding the trademark around assets like this could be one of the roles that the co-op helps fill.

@quillmatiq.com has gathered a community group to gather resources around atmosphere accounts.

@divy.zone kicking off thinking around Atmospheric Login is going to need some of this work sooner rather than later

Roughly, here’s what I see needed:

  • gathering a small group to figure out the process
  • identify a team to work on developing an atmospheric login
  • raise funds
  • run process including community involvement
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Brookie made a good point: I don’t think “atproto” needs a brand. Protocols usually aren’t strongly branded.

Things like WiFi or Bluetooth are like coordinated marks, which are like IEEE802.11b as their protocol specification.

And the active atproto operator ecosystem that wants to coordinate on interoperable accounts & logins is more like the latter.

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This is an interesting Unicode symbol (which is not the same thing as a brand or logo)

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Thoughts about https://atmosphereaccount.com/, more specifically the Atmosphere account icon at Developer resources — Atmosphere Account Docs?

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I talked to @joebasser.com recently and he said he’s open to making it a community project but it isn’t yet - hoping he and @quillmatiq.com can connect and figure out how to evolve it.

But it’s totally fine if Joe wants to just work on it by himself!

I haven’t seen any momentum around that icon.

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I’ve seen another unicode symbol mentioned a few times as well: :cyclone:

Here is a reference:

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Somewhat similar idea, the logo used for the ATmosphere plugin for WordPress was also mentioned:

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I probably should not have started this by pointing to the Unicode one!

Ideally this is the work that needs to be done - why are “we” the community doing this work, what are the goals, who will work on it, how do we decide.

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Definitely time to set this in motion! I think Bluesky can contribute resources to assist.

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Hello everyone! I think we need to get this going quickly. The earlier we have a recognizable atmosphere logo/mark and standard login look for the web the better. I don’t think it needs to be something that takes a long time. What are we blocked on?

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I agree that it’s time to start seriously having this conversation and put resources forward to develop the brand for the protocol. I feel that something spherical that plays off of the atmoSPHERE would be great. I developed something that I had in mind on Adobe Illustrator a while back, was wanting to go for a design that looks like an atmospheric cyclone/storm as a contrast to the more angular logo of the Fediverse.

hey @sherif.eurosky.social - I think what I quoted above is the “blocker” - a 2-3 leads, a process, gather a few more folks to participate, run the process with community involvement.

I don’t know what you have in mind for contest, but that is typically pretty frowned upon way of doing things and also ends up with Boaty McBoatface.

I do think that as something is developed, a showcase of assets, different treatments, and ways to include the logo on websites, logins, stickers, shirts etc etc etc is a way to do “let’s look at lots of nicely designed things” that includes everyone, rather than a contest.

Do you want to lead this effort? Can you think of 1-2 others to join you in this?

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yup all makes sense. Happy to be a co-lead. Asking a couple of people. Any volunteers?

Hey everyone - @evelyn.northsky.team and I are volunteering to work on this - we’ll reach out to folks and update as things progress. In the meantime let’s keep the conversation going here.

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Going to be doing a kick off call supporting Sherif & Evelyn on this, with a couple of other folks.

Wanted to reference that this started back in November 2024, including sketches by @tom.party

And a reminder! This is not about whether you like a particular graphic or not! The work ahead is to decide the process and how/what this should signify, when sitting next to Login with Apple/Google/Microsoft.

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Hi all, thought I would finally pop my head up in this community. This is a topic I have been engaged with for many years around the fediverse and have many strong feelings on. A project to (re) do this for for the fediverse was something that I kicked off (along with Raphaël and Nicolas) that has had some success: the ⁂ (symbol.fediverse.info) to represent the fediverse. It came about after years of seeing how the rainbow network graph was failing to work as a symbol or logo on many fronts and then when Threads announced they joined the fediverse they came up with their own iconography to represent a space they were joining.

While I personally don’t think the ⁂ should be used as a general open social web symbol I do think that it would make sense to think about how all these different networks fit together and make sure that the identities of the networks are compatible.

The issue of what icon/symbol to use next to a login field is one realm, but bigger then that is this issue of how the “follow me on Instagram/Facebook/X” etc will work out. Already the fact that the Bluesky logo is the one being used everywhere becomes really problematic when you take into account projects like Blacksky and Eurosky.

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Protocols usually aren’t strongly branded.

OK. Let’s start there. Protocols aren’t branded.

I can’t imagine Tim Berners-Lee thinking “I must figure out how to promote http”. Jolly difficult wot! Its what people do with a protocol that makes it useful, or (usually), not. World Wide Web, like Atmosphere, is just a throwaway that appeals to everyone. Its soo American to want to promote a product before its settled. (Ask Microsoft)

So.. We’re starting to get a few flavours of what In http-speak we call Web Sites (domain names). Bluesky (as the first), then Black, Euro, etc. They’re the brands people associate with. If I (as a pommy) see one, where bluesky is pretty inspiring, but I like the euro version of how the protocol is being used (mainly the priorities they SEEM to have), I’m going to vote with my feet/PDS.

Let’s bring this down. The idea is; I have a PDS with an org who owns my server which represents my values. The governance of that org concerns me. Another Elon or Trump I don’t need. Whether that org is a private, or or an public one concerns me. Americans, it seems, don’t seem to trust their governments. Europeans, less so. They’re happy with a government issued wallet.

Technically, the real paradigm shift = splitting (hiding) my account/personal details from my online social discussions = comes down to the formal layers of my identity which give me the responsibilities and authority = the sovereignty = of a citizen. While retaining my privacy of course.

In Europe, governments are starting to issue public wallets, where 24 country’s citizens can validate, at the highest level of security, they have a pulse. I’d like my Atmosphere PDS inside one. Americans have Google or Apple.

Excuse the rave, but this need - to put a user’s/citizen’s ID/Account - before whatever protocol is being used, is now starting to become serious.
Talk- social media- is cheap. Most people want to be part of a Nation’s communities. They want to meet people like themselves and have a say in the things they need and want to do. AND - here’s the important bit - they want to consider that they, together, can actually achieve some goal. Democracy?

Privately-owned media won’ t help here. Content (their owners know) is there to separate the ads (and spin a story). And Americans don’t look at public media like 24 language Europeans do.) Mind you the old European public broadcasters aren’t much better.

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